TRANSCRIPT OF PROCEEDINGS OF THE


 COMANCHE BUSINESS COMMITTEE 


SPECIAL MEETING 


AUGUST 31, 2010, 4:10 P.M.


 COMANCHE NATION BUSINESS CENTER


 LAWTON, OKLAHOMA


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A P P E A R A N C E S


 COMANCHE NATION BUSINESS COMMITTEE MEMBERS:


 Michael Burgess, Chairman 
Richard "Bunky" Henson, Vice-Chairman 
Robert Tippeconnie, Secretary-Treasurer 
Ronald Red Elk, Committeeman #1 
Mark Wauahdooah, Committeeman #2 
Darrell Kosechequetah, Committeeman #3 
Clyde R. Narcomey, Committeeman #4


 LEGAL COUNSEL:


 William Norman, James Burson 
Hobbs, Straus, Dean & Walker


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INDEX OF PROCEEDINGS 
PAGE 
Meeting called to order at 4:10 p.m. 4 
Roll Call. 4 
Invocation. 5 
Motion passed to approve Resolution 
#102-10/Development & Compliance. 
5 
Motion passed to approve Resolution 
#103-10/Higher Education.
26 
Motion passed to table Resolution 
#104-10/Irregular Disbursement.
34 
Motion passed to amend agenda. 38 
Motion passed to approve Comanche 
Nation College capital improvements 
in the amount of $21,000.39 
Comanche Nation Elders Center 
Nutrition Center board sworn in.
50 
James Kowena/37 acres to sell. 50 
Fire program/TERO Office. 54 
Gaming Commission Appointment/Ed 
Tahah appointed as chairman.
60 
Motion passed to readvertise for 
Economic Development board 
positions.
74 
Motion passed to adjourn. 77 
Reporter's Certificate. 79 
Secretary/Treasurer's Certificate. 80 
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 (Meeting called to order at


 4:10 p.m.) 
MR. BURGESS: Thank you, ladies and 
gentlemen. We're going to come to order here and 
do a roll call. Everybody's invited to come sit 
up close, because our eyes are getting bad. I 
promise we won't spit, no paper wads. Just 
because you're in a choir doesn't mean you have to 
sit back there.


 Bob, would you give us a roll call? 
MR. TIPPECONNIE: Michael Burgess? 
MR. BURGESS: Here. 
MR. TIPPECONNIE: Richard Henson? 
MR. HENSON: Here. 
MR. TIPPECONNIE: Robert Tippeconnie?


 Here. Ronald RedElk? 
MR. REDELK: Here. 
MR. TIPPECONNIE: Mark Wauahdooah? 
MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Here. 
MR. TIPPECONNIE: Darrell


 Kosechequetah? 
MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Here. 
MR. TIPPECONNIE: Clyde Narcomey? 
MR. NARCOMEY: Here. 
MR. BURGESS: All present and 



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 accounted for, then. I'm going to ask my friend 
here, Beth, Ms. Glazebrook, would you say a prayer 
for our meeting at this time?


 MS. GLAZEBROOK: (Invocation.)


 MR. BURGESS: Thank you. We will not 
-- we don't have the minutes from the last month's 
meeting. That will be at Saturday's. So we'll 
move forward to Item Number V in your little 
packet there, fellas, first being Resolution 
Number 102-10.


 As some of you know, paid attention, 
we previously had brought this forward last fall, 
almost a year ago. It took us a while to pass 
it. It was passed and then summarily closed in 
February or so. So I'm bringing it forward again 
asking for y'all's support. We heard from the two 
outgoing CBC members that what was needed and what 
would help the tribe a lot was planning, research, 
development, compliance and budgeting. That's 
what this department, compliance and development 
department, was all about.


 So we asked for a motion to pass this 
and re-institute our compliance and development 
department. We're coming again to the season from 
the federal government that we need to be putting 



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 grant contracts out, trying to get more funding 
brought in. Instead of using $20 million from the 
nation's gaming, we should be using $20 million 
from the federal government for programs and 
support services for the community.


 MR. HENSON: Tell us what position it 
will be.


 MR. BURGESS: Position will be a 
development officer. It would be a development 
officer, budget analyst, it would be a compliance 
officer, and then in that position would be the 
grant facilitator. And they will most likely need 
an administrative assistant, executive assistant, 
if you want to call it that.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Staff.


 MR. BURGESS: Staff person. And this 
would be funded -- we had it totally funded with 
our indirect cost structure. So that's part of 
our administrative programming. This would be our 
executive office staff to help us do a lot of 
review, resource finding, resolution on 
analyzation of budgets and policies and 
procedures. Having a compliance officer who would 
help us develop policies for our programs, for 
instance, our social service programs. 



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 MR. HENSON: Mike, the other question 
I want to ask, because of the compliance officer, 
is this whole office going to answer to the CBC or 
the TA?


 MR. BURGESS: Well, I prefer it 
answer to the CBC.


 MR. HENSON: Well, it's got a 
compliance officer. At least that one should 
answer to the highest power there is.


 MR. BURGESS: The reason I'm saying 
the CBC is that we are in charge of planning 
future development and overseeing programs 
anyway. And with the tribal administrator 
position, our structure as it is, I tell you, it's 
going to take three tribal administrators to do 
what we need done if we keep with our old 
structure. We've really got to go back into that 
reorganization and that restructure. With five 
people doing the job of one, it's going to be 
easier and smoother to stay on top of things.


 Compliance office, outside of the 
direction we're going, with four or five sets of 
eyes helping us to see that we're meeting our 
goals and objectives that are in the grant 
programs, and that will surely keep us from 



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 falling into the trap we fell into the previous 13 
years.


 MR. HENSON: Is one of these going to 
be the director of that office?


 MR. BURGESS: Actually, as a group I 
think we'll have a team effort. Therefore, we 
shouldn't run into any turf battles. That's what 
I'm trying to avoid. We get into that.


 MR. HENSON: I make a motion we 
pass.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Before -- well, I 
was going to raise a question. You're making a 
motion. Should I reserve my question?


 MR. BURGESS: Well, it's up to you.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I just want us to 
read for sure that we're comfortable with -- if 
you go to the next-to-the-last "Therefore be it 
resolved," it says -- the second sentence -"
re-establish the office of compliance and 
development, which will be under the direction of 
the business committee." Then we have here 
through the office of the tribal administrator. 
I'm just raising a question so we, you know -


 MR. BURGESS: I know you are. That's 
why -



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 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Is this under the 
CBC?


 MR. BURGESS: I prefer it to be under 
the CBC directly.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: So if it is, it 
seems we would strike that title, then?


 MR. HENSON: Strike tribal 
administrator?


 MR. BURGESS: Questions again?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: It may be 
coordination with. Maybe it should be it can 
coordinate with the office.


 MR. OWENS: That particular group, 
are they under the nation?


 MR. BURGESS: They would be. They 
would follow all policies and procedures. See, 
they're not over any specific program that 
services the community. They're outside that 
scope.


 MR. HENSON: So it would be indirect 
cost.


 MR. BURGESS: They'd have to meet -these 
would be salaried positions, other than the 
administrative assistant.


 MR. OWENS: This is a concern. This 



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 is just me talking, not acting or what have you. 
But an employee that is under our HR but answers 
to a board or a committee, and does that staff 
employee have rights as far as an appeal if 
something was done wrong? How is it going to be 
handled as far as HR? We're going to run into 
that. It's a problem we've already ran into it.


 MR. HENSON: I think HR policies and 
procedures cover that, but if they don't, all we 
have to do is amend it.


 MR. OWENS: If you throw the tribal 
administrator in there and that person does not 
agree with what the business committee -- they 
want to recommend termination or what have you, 
then you've got a problem. Who supercedes who? 
That's why it's a good deal to strike that 
position out of there.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Which position?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: The tribal 
administrator.


 MR. HENSON: Tribal administrator is 
what he's talking about.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Should we say, 
though, coordinates with the office? I just raise 
a question. 



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 MR. HENSON: That has to be done -everything 
that's done with this office has to go 
through the TA because he's going to be involved 
with all the change.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: So coordination -


 MR. BURGESS: The coordination is 
more effective.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: There's a 
difference between go through and coordinate with.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Because then you 
give some authority to the TA. It becomes a 
conflict.


 MR. BURGESS: It becomes a conflict 
because what if compliance finds an issue with the 
TA's operation and then reports that and then is 
told you can't report that?


 MR. HENSON: That's why I'm saying 
the compliance officer can't answer to the TA. 
They have to answer to the highest authority. But 
on the other hand, the TA should be involved in 
all the planning and everything that that office 
does, because it's going to effect the tribal 
government.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: So are you 
comfortable with coordinates with the tribal 



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 administrator?


 MR. BURGESS: I'll be comfortable 
with that.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Just coordinates, 
that's not saying it has any authority to 
supervise it.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Who does it report 
directly to?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: The business 
committee.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: It's got to be the 
business committee?


 MR. OWENS: Well, I'm still waiting 
on an answer on this HR. You're going to staff 
these people and you used the term staff, like 
administrative assistant. You're going to run 
into issues here.


 MR. HENSON: That would only take one 
sentence to amend the HR policies if it's not in 
there already. Because of the police department, 
it may be in there already.


 MR. OWENS: I'm not trying to argue 
with you guys, I'm just trying to bring up a 
point.


 MR. HENSON: No, that's what I'm 



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 saying. The police department's under the same 
thing. They're under the HR policy, too. So it 
might be in there already.


 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Mr. Chairman, 
when someone is speaking from the floor, would 
they introduce themselves? Like I don't know this 
young man who's speaking. Would that be a -


 MR. BURGESS: This is Mr. Will Owens, 
our acting tribal administrator. His position has 
been for five years with our transit and 
transportation department. Mr. Will Owens, acting 
TA.


 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: That's what I 
wanted to see.


 MR. OWENS: Yes, ma'am.


 MR. BURGESS: I understand your 
question, Will, and it's not something that's 
easily stated. But the history of things, knowing 
that for 13 years we did without compliance, 
development, research, planning, that's what has 
hurt us, because we didn't have another set of 
eyes, just the CBC, to see that all programs are 
meeting obligations.


 So in the past six years, the tribe 
got away, management got away from reports that we 



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 needed. Therefore, the funding fell out and the 
tribe didn't -- when you have a third set of eyes, 
this department is that. And their duty as budget 
analyst and compliance officer would be working 
together to see that our policies meet what the 
federal guidelines are asking. And sometimes our 
policies might be more stringent for any specific 
reason, such as water quality control, maybe for 
transit rules and guidelines on the bus. We need 
to have someone viewing those policies and that 
development, doing that research for us.


 So we need this department. And it's 
been stated in the past and on the floor here 
recently that we need more grants, we need to have 
more grant writers. And right now, with the cadre 
of consultants, we cannot always meet the grants 
that we're eligible to go for because we're just 
using one or two at a time. Yes, Mark.


 MR. OWENS: If I may add, I'm on the 
advisory board of the Oklahoma Department of 
Transportation. It is not unheard of for any 
tribe to have a planner. You mentioned the word 
planning. There is a planner position that is 
paid out of 638 out of transportation. It doesn't 
always pertain to transportation issues. But when 



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 you do roads and bridges in your community or what 
have you, there's plenty involved.


 Let's just say that unfortunately the 
Red River, the casino, or the Lawton casino, 
traffic studies may not have been done at that 
time. And now we're running into issues where we 
have to improve because of the -- what do you call 
the temporary light over there, Bob, in Lawton? 
There's traffic in Randlett. So that position as 
a planner, it's not unheard of if you put in the 
transportation realm that monies -- or the salary 
can come from -- not all of it -- can come from 
your 2 percent planning. That's where my salary 
comes from.


 I'm not advocating for this position, 
I'm just trying to tell you, you don't have to go 
out. There's various ways of funding this if


 possible. 
MR. BURGESS: That would be one 
position. 
MR. OWENS: Right. That's just one 
position. 
MR. BURGESS: That could be our

 development officer who would serve as the 
planner. 



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 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Mr. Chairman -Mr. 
Secretary/Treasurer, re-read that paragraph 
that says, "Therefore be it resolved the Comanche 
Business Committee..."


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I'll go back to 
that. "Re-establish the office of compliance and 
development, which will be under the direction of 
the Comanche Business Committee and coordinates 
with the tribal administrator," then go on for 
those different items.


 MR. HENSON: Coordinated with.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: So this has been 
seconded?


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: No, not yet. I'd 
like to -- when we did these positions before, it 
seems as though some of the position descriptions 
and requirements were really close. It seems as 
though they were almost overlapping duties. Do 
you recall that? As if the position of two could 
have been one. In fact, I heard a comment from 
somebody saying, "I could do both of those 
positions at the same time."


 I'm wondering if that needs to be -we 
need to, before we pass this -- I'm going to 
make a motion to table it. One, based on for us 



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 to go back and look at the position descriptions 
again.


 MR. BURGESS: There's already a 
motion on the floor.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: I understand. 
Second, to get clarity on the HR status, to see if 
that's implemented. If that is the concern that 
the TA had there, if it allows for that in our HR 
policies. But it seems as though we need to look 
at this a little bit further. I'm in support of 
these positions, Chairman. I told you that 
before. I just think we need to look at it a 
little bit more before we move.


 MR. HENSON: All we did on those 
position descriptions last time is we let HR 
develop that. We wasn't involved in it. And we 
should be involved in it.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: That's my point.


 MR. HENSON: And that doesn't have to 
be waited on. We could go ahead and pass this, 
but the position descriptions will come out of CBC 
since they're going to be working with us -- I 
mean for us. So that's not going to be a problem.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, one thing 
this resolution establishes is the action, but it 



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 doesn't list the number of positions. I think 
something that Darrell is raising is a good 
point. You know, if positions can be combined to 
make it a full work year, you know, that is 
smart. Because some of these maybe can be 
combined. See, that's five positions. Well, the 
assistant's different, but four primary positions.


 MR. BURGESS: I think y'all have 
found out that just the grant facilitator -- and 
some people had the impression that our grant 
facilitator was the grant writer. That's not the 
position. With some of the directors trying to 
write their own grants, we weren't successful, 
even though the grant facilitator tried to edit 
and get it done. When you have three or four 
grants with a similar deadline within a week's 
time, you can't get that done. That's where a 
development officer who is more like a planner and 
grant writer will be working on several of those.


 And then finding out that some of the 
budgets people submitted, we didn't always have 
correct information. Some of them didn't 
understand the budget process. Now, mind you, 
these are some people who have been working here 
three to five years long and they should know 



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 this. But, still, they don't get it right. You 
can't always throw out the baby with the wash if 
the baby's getting a little upset.


 So that's why -- it's a good 
question, but we went through these questions two 
months last year. Here we are a year later coming 
back with the similar and same questions. The 
process is not any different. They will be hired 
by the HR policies. They will be employees of the 
tribe. All except the administrative assistant 
will be exempt so that we have them work. If they 
have to work 12 hours a day for three weeks to get 
a grant in, that's what they have to do.


 But, remember now, Bob, you tried to 
say that, okay, let's combine budget analyst and 
compliance officer. But if you sit down with 
Keith Yackeyonny, our finance officer, you ask him 
how much time does it take to do a couple of three 
budgets here, see if we have the same time to 
check rules and regulations, CFRs to see if we're 
in compliance, or needing new policies to meet 
compliance.


 For instance, the reintegration 
program. We tried to submit a grant for that, but 
come to find out, there were a lot of 



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 prerequisites, things required before we could 
even apply that we didn't have in place. That was 
a year ago. If we had a compliance person just 
researching all that, setting up required meetings 
in the community, doing research, networking 
agreements, MOUs with other agencies, we could 
have applied for that now. But we can't because 
we don't have somebody just working that side of 
the compliance areas. So we can't even qualify to 
do this grant. That's why we're using our own 
money when we could have had somebody doing this 
and setting up the meetings and going on. So we 
need help. We need executive administrative help 
to do some of these things.


 MR. BURGESS: Clyde has a question.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Mr. Chairman, you said 
earlier when you first started, you said that we 
voted on this before. Is this the resolution that 
we passed to hire a CPA or a compliance officer?


 MR. BURGESS: Just a compliance. 
Somebody who knows the policies, guidelines.


 MR. NARCOMEY: That one you're 
talking about, that don't have nothing to do with 
this?


 MR. BURGESS: Not a CPA. Not 



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 required. That would have been our finance 
office. We announced that. I don't know what 
happened to it. One person applied.


 MR. NARCOMEY: We still need it.


 MR. BURGESS: We still need it.


 MR. NARCOMEY: We still need a CPA.


 MR. BURGESS: Keep this guy out of 
daily jeopardy.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: There's always 
daily jeopardy. Well said.


 MR. HENSON: I might say one thing 
about establishing this office. I've been on this 
CBC for over a year now and we've been talking 
about a lot of stuff. We've been wanting to get a 
lot of stuff done. And we got things going in so 
many directions that it takes time for us to 
move. An office like this is very important to us 
right now. They could do the development, they 
could help us with the budget, compliance officer 
with getting us back in compliance. And then, of 
course, the grant facilitator, that's really 
important. So this is really an important office 
just for the CBC.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, for the 
nation. 



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 MR. HENSON: Yeah, for the nation. 
But what I'm saying is, it will help the CBC go 
toward one direction a lot more than we've been 
going. It's very important.


 And I'm with Darrell over there, 
that, yeah, we need to take a look at these 
position descriptions and find out exactly what 
they need to do. But that's going to be up to the 
CBC. We have to all set and discuss it, what it 
is and what we want out of that program. Ron's 
not new, but Mark's new and he hasn't really went 
through the experience that we've went through in 
the last year in trying to get somewhere and get 
something done. It's very important that we get 
this, get it started. I could see the development 
officer and the compliance officer very, very, 
very important, especially with some of the 
development that we want to do.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: One thing if we 
pass the resolution is, and it's stated with this 
amendment and the coordination there, you know -we 
re-establish -- like the last "Therefore now," 
we re-establish that office. We call it 
compliance and development. The name could be 
development and compliance. Anyway, compliance 



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 and development, but we're not saying numbers of 
positions, which gives us some flexibility to look 
at the PDs. It gives us flexibility. We can say 
no, but once we see the, you know, PDs, then we 
can evaluate that.


 MR. BURGESS: And we're not able to 
bring anybody on until after October 1st. So 
acting now gives us two or three weeks lead time, 
refine that, get the PDs announced and give it two 
or three weeks of advertisement time and 
collecting resumes and applications to come in.


 MR. HENSON: I want to renew my 
motion with the change of coordinator with the 
tribal administrator office.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: And coordinates 
with? Okay.


 MR. HENSON: Yes, coordinates with.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I'll second that 
motion.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Could I have a 
chance to make a question? I feel, you know, 
planning and development, if you put planning and 
development, I think that's very key. So I just 
suggest we reverse the office, call it the office 
of development and compliance. 



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 MR. BURGESS: Okay.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: If you go along 
with that. You made the motion. Office of 
development and compliance. I'd put development 
before compliance, because that's where we develop 
everything and then we comply.


 MR. BURGESS: Is that all right with 
you?


 MR. HENSON: It don't make that much 
difference, it's still going to be the same 
office.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: It just puts a 
picture in my head, though.


 MR. WAHADOOAH: Robert, I second that 
motion.


 MR. BURGESS: Motion stands with the 
recommended change in title of development and 
compliance office. All right. Call for the 
question.


 MR. WAHADOOAH: Discussion?


 MR. BURGESS: Discussion?


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I'm going to 
recommend that soon after, if it is passed, that 
we get a job description for these things.


 MR. BURGESS: We have them. 



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 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: We do?


 MR. HENSON: We have some. We just 
need to look them over.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: And the definition 
for each office, a little more defined. Can you 
call a special meeting for that? The department 
as a whole. Right now, it appears to be abstract 
right now. I like this idea, but I think some 
people really want something more specific.


 MR. HENSON: We went through this 
once before, Mark. We had all the stuff and then 
it came back and it was passed once before to 
develop this office.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Got a good question. 
Where's the money going to come from to pay all 
these people?


 MR. BURGESS: Indirect costs that we 
get off of every program that we get funded for.


 MR. HENSON: It's actually not going 
to cost the nation. It will cost all the 
programs.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: It services all 
programs.


 MR. OWENS: Thank you.


 MR. BURGESS: It services all 



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 programs.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Services the nation 
and all programs.


 MR. BURGESS: Call for the question?


 MR. HENSON: Call for the vote. Are 
you satisfied, Mark?


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Yes.


 MR. BURGESS: All those in favor 
signify by saying "aye". 


(Aye.)


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Seconded by who?


 MR. BURGESS: Seconded by Mark.


 All those opposed, same sign. All 
those abstain, same sign. Okay. That passed.


 Item Number 103-10, resolution for 
higher education. Resolution reads, "Whereas, the 
Comanche Business Committee is the duly elected 
official body designated to conduct business for 
and on behalf of the Comanche Nation, and


 "Whereas, the Comanche Nation Higher 
Education program receives Comanche Nation gaming 
monies in addition to Bureau of Indian Affairs 
funding.


 "Therefore be it resolved, that the 
Comanche Business Committee deems it necessary to 



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 use a majority of CNG monies to fund higher 
education students who meet program criteria and 
do not receive a Pell grant."


 The reason this is coming forward is 
that the original resolution on the floor stated 
the money was to assist the Comanche Nation 
students who did not receive a Pell, and we want 
to continue that. But there's been ancillary 
additions to use of the monies. We're finding out 
a lot of students are not being funded, but we're 
trying to serve as many students as possible. 
That's why we changed the word from portion to a 
majority of. The majority of the funding should 
go to college graduates. Now we're serving 
undergraduates and graduate students. We're being 
approached by a lot of graduate students to help 
them pay for internships. So that's a whole new 
development, but they're all students. So we're 
trying to make sure we have enough money to serve 
those needs.


 MR. HENSON: Isn't that also on the 
grants, we get funding of 638 monies?


 MR. BURGESS: The 638, basically 
we're not funding graduate students. It's usually 
for under grad. 



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 MR. HENSON: The Pell?


 MR. BURGESS: Uh-huh. See, this 
doesn't just discount technical students either, 
because they can receive Pells. It just depends 
if they want to. But we're finding that a lot of 
students are losing money, being charged late fees 
for not having their money in on time, so we're 
trying to push that forward. And we're also going 
to be looking at the budgets later on, so -


 MR. HENSON: I'll make a motion to 
pass.


 MR. BURGESS: Motion made to pass. 
Is there a second?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Who seconded that?


 MR. BURGESS: No one yet.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I'll second it.


 MR. BURGESS: Second by 
Mr. Tippeconnie.


 MR. NARCOMEY: How much money are 
y'all talking about?


 MR. HENSON: CNG monies that they 
get, just the regular budget.


 MR. BURGESS: All the CNG monies they 
receive is 2 million.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: The same budget, I 



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 guess?


 MR. HENSON: Yeah, the same budget.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Just opening up the 
eligibility.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Okay. I'm 
confused. Who is this helping that it isn't 
currently helping? People who don't receive the 
Pell? You said something about higher education. 
Whether it's master's -- you're not talking about 
master's?


 MR. BURGESS: BIA only helps you as 
an undergraduate student, and if you get a Pell, 
you have to qualify for the Pell.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Oh, okay. They 
want to help you if you get a Pell?


 MR. BURGESS: This money is to help 
those students who want to go to school but don't 
get a Pell who end up taking out loans. What 
happens is, if you don't get a Pell, you do get 
BIA funds.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: So we weren't 
currently giving people who did not qualify for a 
Pell any money?


 MR. BURGESS: We were.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: We were. 



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 MR. BURGESS: We were. Now we're 
helping graduate students because BIA doesn't help 
grad students, and many of them have to take out 
loans. So we're helping grad students.


 In addition, they've been helping 
vo-tech students. Some did take a Pell, some 
didn't. So we have to make sure they follow this 
guideline. This was what was done on the floor. 
We researched that and that's why we want to 
reinforce this.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: When he says the 
floor, he's talking about tribal council.


 MR. BURGESS: So this is what the 
tribal council voted for year after year.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Is this something 
our higher education director is on board with or 
something that we just brought forward to her? Is 
it instruction to go in this manner?


 MR. BURGESS: This is reiterating 
what was done on the floor. This is just 
following the floor, because there's some 
differences that were done.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: But it is 
instruction?


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: But it is 



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 instruction?


 MR. BURGESS: It is instruction, 
yeah. She'll be coming to us here Saturday with a 
request.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Oh, okay.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Do you know how much 
percentage increase as for number of students? 
Vocational training students, how many more is 
this going to add?


 MR. BURGESS: It's not going to add 
any more, because over the last two years they've 
gone from about 500 to 740 students as of last 
month in July. I say July, I mean last month. 
That's the total they have. And of that number, 
approximately 250 to, I want to say, 300 were on 
CNG funds. The majority were on BIA funds. And 
the BIA gives adult education, they give job 
training placement money, and so there's two 
avenues that are currently around 60, $70,000.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: We weren't funding 
graduate students at that time?


 MR. BURGESS: We weren't.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: So there will be a 
percentage increase then?


 MR. BURGESS: No, we've been funding 



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 graduate students. We have been funding them out 
of CNG. But I don't think it's increased that 
much. Remember now, historically, probably only 
one-quarter of a percent of the graduate students 
get their bachelor's. So we're a small number. 
We need to look at this.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I don't know what 
the numbers are, but I know graduate students have 
a tough time getting monies.


 MR. BURGESS: Yes. We've always 
recommended, --I think they were getting 3,500. 
And, see, the BIA is recommending that we give 
2,750. 2,500 is what we currently give. We match 
the BIA. But that's been the same thing since 
1977.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Mr. Chairman, I 
support this resolution.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Call for the vote.


 MR. NARCOMEY: To me, if we're going 
to have this budget cut that we're talking about, 
and they already got a line item for the higher ed 
already.


 MR. BURGESS: BIA?


 MR. NARCOMEY: The line item on the 
budget for higher ed. It seems to me like we're 



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 just giving them more money already than what 
we're giving them.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: It's still within 
the budget.


 MR. HENSON: It's still the same 
budget.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Oh, it's still within 
the budget? Then why did we have to go through 
all this then if it meets the budget?


 MR. HENSON: This is a way to 
disburse it a little better. But it's the same 
budget. It's no more money.


 MR. BURGESS: What has happened, some 
of the students missed the deadline. Darrell sent 
his application August 15th. It got here by 
September 1, a few days after the deadline of the 
31st or the 30th. He's discounted, he's not even 
considered. We want them to come back and start 
looking at those late applications and fund them 
after everyone else is funded and come back and 
get the grant money. That's not been happening. 
So this tells them the majority to do that.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Mr. Chairman, I call 
for the vote.


 MR. BURGESS: Call for the question 



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 here. All those in favor signify by saying "aye". 


(Aye.)


 MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign. Motion 
passes.


 Resolution Number 104-10. This 
resolution will authorize the CBC to authorize the 
Comanche Nation Gaming Board to make an irregular 
gaming disbursement to the Comanche Nation in the 
amount of $35,000 to cover for the cost of the 
capital improvements program to apply a new roof, 
called a thermal elastic roof coating, to the 
Comanche Nation Lawton Casino. This will be done 
before September 30th, and this is to reimburse 
our expenses for staff to do that job for them.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: To pay for the job.


 MR. BURGESS: Pays for the job. So 
it's actually a cost of their operations. They 
found that to be the lowest cost possible to do it 
that way, as opposed to a couple that were almost 
three times the cost. It's about a $75,000 job. 
So they were given 40 percent up front, 30 percent 
when they finish, and then the balance when the 
inspection's done.


 MR. HENSON: But no more than 35. 



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 MR. BURGESS: Go ahead.


 MR. NORMAN: Is there any reason why 
this needs a resolution as opposed to just a 
payment from the gaming board?


 MR. BURGESS: That's what we asked. 
That's what we're asking.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: The board wanted a 
resolution, the gaming board.


 MR. BURGESS: And our assumption is 
it's not coming from the RAP, it's coming from 
operational.


 MR. NORMAN: If it is an operational 
expense of theirs and they made the decision to 
utilize your folks to provide the service to them, 
I'm not sure there's a reason for this 
resolution. And to call it an irregular 
disbursement is problematic. That doesn't sound 
like it's an irregular disbursement.


 MR. HENSON: We asked the same 
thing. They wanted a resolution. I don't know 
where irregular came from.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Is it possibly 
prompted by the commission who requires vendor 
licensing? Would it have anything to do with 
that, because they're doing business with the 



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 tribal program?


 MR. NORMAN: I suppose that's 
possible, but I'm still not sure that this would 
resolve any concern about vendor licensing.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: We can table it to 
Saturday and get back to them. Now, I know the 
point when they use this terminology of 
understanding that it's coming from gaming, is 
that if it's regular and it's not within 
operational, you know, that makes another 
question. You can't use that. Because then it 
becomes part of the RAP. So it is, as I 
understand, within their operations.


 MR. NORMAN: I think we're saying the 
same thing.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: But their 
disbursement doesn't come to the nation. That's 
what they're saying. Disbursement doesn't come to 
the Comanche Nation. It stays within the casinos 
as monies to be expended for operations. So 
they're using the words irregular and they're 
using the words -- I mean, requiring the 
resolution saying it's going outside their normal 
community. I can see your frown there, because 
they should be able to work outside parties and 



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 coming in to do work, and we're just an outside 
party. I understand that. We'll table it. 
MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I second that 
motion, Mr. Chairman.


 MR. BURGESS: To table? 
MR. WAUAHDOOAH: To table. 
MR. BURGESS: Yes. Call for the 
vote. All those in favor signify by saying "aye". 
(Aye.) 
MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign. 
MR. NARCOMEY: Just one comment on 
that. Didn't we just get through remodeling that

 thing for 10 million plus and here we're spending 
-- going to spend, what, 35 more thousand dollars 
and they just remodeled it?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, remember, it 
has that flat roof. That roof, you know, is -flat 
roofs will always be a problem until you get 
something like we've done on this.


 MR. OWENS: It's not a flat roof. 
What's happening is the screws, they got a 
little -


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Leakage around the 
screws? 



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 MR. OWENS: Yeah, the screws have to 
be re-tightened. It's 100 percent guarantee that 
it won't leak. It's a coating here. We put the 
same here when we did the Watchetaker Hall. I 
know that we haven't had no rain, but Watchetaker 
Hall, I know that when we had to remodel that 
facility, it has not leaked since. There's two 
individuals from that CIP -- or actually all of 
them went to training on this and they are 
certified to apply this chemical or kind of like a 
paint base. It's thick, clear and white.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Elastic?


 MR. OWENS: Yes.


 MR. HENSON: So let's table this.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Did we get the 
vote?


 MR. BURGESS: Yes, they voted to 
table.


 Would you like to amend the agenda to 
bring item Number 5 up to the top, because 
Mr. Henson has a -


 MR. HENSON: I'll make that motion.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I'll second that 
motion.


 MR. BURGESS: Second made. All those 



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 in favor signify by saying "aye". 
(Aye.) 
MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign. All right.


 Comanche Nation College, they sent us 
a letter, guys, and they're in need of our 
assistance because we own the building. Even 
though we're not charging them rent, we're liable 
for all the repairs and necessary upkeep. They've 
got some capital improvements needing to be done. 
They already went ahead and used a Power Lift. 
The letter explains it, those of you who have it. 
And they're working on one classroom that they 
need to have an enrollment now of 230-some 
students.


 They've been working since June on 
this thing. They keep trying to get on the 
agenda, but we've been so inundated. I'm not sure 
we're worried too much about the camera system, 
but we do need to help them with the structural 
repairs, which is flooring. We're going to need 
some new carpet. And there's foundation repair 
that they're having to do in one area. So totally 
they're looking closer to $100,000. We need to 
help them with something there ASAP. 



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 MR. HENSON: Well, actually they're 
only asking for -


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Sixty-three, it 
says.


 MR. BURGESS: Sixty-three?


 MR. HENSON: Yeah, but 25 to 30,000 
of this is on the camera system. I don't think 
that we should be involved in that. That's part 
of the college, isn't it? We own the building, we 
have to fix it.


 MR. BURGESS: We have to fix it, 
yeah. They're looking for a total of 100, but I'm 
looking at the auditorium doors that are really 
bad, and then the windows, and then that 
foundation repair, and then that floor. We had to 
repair one whole floor and pull that foundation up 
or whatever they do.


 MR. HENSON: That's 20,000.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: The darkened 
amounts are not their priorities, it's just that 
they want -- it seems to be the darkened amounts 
are their priorities.


 MR. BURGESS: Yeah, that's right.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: So that's 63,700. 
And then the 25 to 30 there, the 30,000, that's a 



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 security system for the building.


 MR. OWENS: Bob, can you explain that 
we are involved in energy solutions where some of 
that can be addressed, correct? We don't know the 
answer yet, but -


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, these things 
they're asking for, you know, the doors and 
windows, yeah -- which we mentioned before this 
Dalton Craig, you know, from Energy Solutions, 
they're doing this assessment of all our 
buildings, including the college. And they're 
looking at the electrical, water, and heat, all 
those costs. And if there's a need to upgrade for 
energy efficiency, they'll pay for the cost, which 
could be windows, could be. But that's something 
that's pending yet.


 MR. BURGESS: Right. The one thing 
they expressed to me is restrooms. They're bad 
and getting some backup and I think it's the 
plumbing. Remember now, it's probably lead-type 
and maybe some copper in there. So they're having 
some problems with that. So if we can just deal 
with them in the interim, or even if we can just 
give them 60,000 or 61 and then see what that 
Energy Solutions or whatever that company is. 



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 MR. HENSON: Where are we going to 
get this money from?


 MR. BURGESS: It's in our budget.


 MR. HENSON: It is in our budget?


 MR. BURGESS: It's in our budget.


 MR. HENSON: Okay. I just wondered 
that. But 50,000?


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: In our budget 
under what?


 MR. HENSON: Why don't we go with 
33,700 until we find out when this report comes 
in? That 20,000 will cover the foundation and 13 
will replace the aluminum auditorium doors.


 MR. BURGESS: That foundation that 
they've had to fix and the floor they've had to 
fix. Let me show you. Yes?


 MR. BURSON: The gaming commission 
was discussing just this last Saturday at the 
regular meeting that they have -- they're about to 
identify some excess surveillance equipment that 
they don't have a need for anymore because they've 
bought new and better equipment. And they intend 
to offer that to the nation before they dispose of 
it in any other way to see if the nation has a 
need for it. And so that may be a partial 



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 solution for the other request here of a camera 
system.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: That would be a big 
help, because they're saying it's $30,000. Save 
30,000.


 MR. BURGESS: That would save a lot.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yeah.


 MR. BURGESS: Because they don't need 
the great mobility that the casino requires, the 
new ones they got for it. Put them in a corner on 
that long, wide angle. That's been helpful 
because they have experienced some vandalism down 
there, people trying to get in. All right. Well, 
fellas, we can find that 50,000.


 MR. HENSON: Yeah. And this other 
stuff, the window repair and all this, guttering 
installation and all that, they should be able to 
try to -- like you were saying, Bob, there's a 
possibility they could find grants. I mean, they 
need to work, too. So I'm going for 33,700.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: That'd be the 
balance if you take out the 30.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: So this is going to 
come out of the new budget for them?


 MR. BURGESS: No. There's an old 



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 budget and there's some carryover from some 
programs we have.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Mr. Chairman, 
where's the title to that building?


 MR. BURGESS: I better refer that 
over to Bob or the attorneys. Do y'all know?


 MR. BURSON: It should be filed with 
the county clerk's office.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: So we do have a copy 
of it here?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I love to keep 
finding these abstracts out in the -


 MR. NORMAN: I don't know if you 
physically have a copy here. There should be one 
on file.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: We're working on 
it. We have the abstract.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: But if it's public 
information, we can go down and get a copy?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: We also are working 
with a title company right now updating our 
abstract so we can move it to the trust status on 
some of these properties.


 MR. BURGESS: One of things we're 
responding to, Mark, is in previous times they 



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 never had a complete appraisal on all properties. 
So now they're coming back and doing these 
appraisals and Bob's chasing down any missing 
documents that are here.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: This is fee land?


 MR. BURGESS: Application has been 
made, has it not, William, for the college to be 
in trust?


 MR. HENSON: So do I make a motion 
for 33,700?


 MR. BURGESS: Why don't you just say 
35?


 MR. HENSON: No, I don't know that 
number. I want 33,700. I'll make my motion for 
35 grand.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: You're making a 
motion?


 MR. HENSON: Yes. If anything, we 
don't want our property to deteriorate any further 
than what it has been.


 MR. BURGESS: True. That's the key. 
We've got to find somebody else to take it off our 
hands.


 All right, motion has been made to 
approve a disbursement of $35,000 to Comanche 



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 Nation College for the repair to foundation, 
flooring, and walls. Do I hear a second? Motion 
made by Mr. Henson. Second?


 What's it going to take to get a 
second to take care of our buildings? We're going 
to let it deteriorate like Fort Sill Indian 
School?


 MR. HENSON: Call for discussion.


 MR. BURGESS: Discussion? Somebody's 
got more questions here.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Who's got the 
money?


 MR. BURGESS: We've got the money.


 MR. HENSON: The budget's been 
revised.


 MR. BURGESS: We've passed that 
resolution limiting their expenditures to the same 
as the federal government. We've seen they don't 
use all the money they've been getting in six 
months' time.


 MR. HENSON: Some of our programs are 
fat with money, so what we're going to do is go 
back and take that budget and we're going to move 
it around in those programs that don't have the 
money so they can still operate. 



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 MR. BURGESS: We're going to have to 
redistribute to some of these red items. We're 
going to have to do that anyways. And the 
building is owned by us, so that money will have 
to go into capital improvements in order to come 
out to pay for that. We've got to take care of 
it. If we don't do it now, it's going to cost 
more in the future.


 So one of the things they went 
through in the plan is to look at a new facility. 
They're not saying where, they just said the plan 
is. What do you need? One of the things they 
need is a new building. So that would be one of 
their capital improvement plans for them to plan 
the funding in the future to move into something. 
If we can't build it, they'll have to build it. 
Fine, that's great. So, gentlemen, it will come 
back to us. We own the building. We're the 
landlords.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: It seems the real 
priority is in these three items. Seems to be the 
east wall; is that right? The foundation of the 
east wall?


 MR. BURGESS: Yes.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: So what they say is 



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 they've already done demolition and preparation 
work for this, huh?


 MR. BURGESS: Yes. They've been 
working on it.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: So they've already 
done work? They just need the Power Lift to lift 
it up, then they finish the under, I guess, 
foundation.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I would be willing 
to compromise on the 20,000 separate for the Power 
Lift for the two rooms, but I don't want to go 
above that.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: You're asking to 
amend his motion? You're seconding that with that 
amendment?


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Not necessarily, but 
just -


 MR. HENSON: Well, there wasn't no 
second on my motion, so -


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I'm just asking if 
it would be a second if you would amend your 20 to 
7 -- 20,700 is what he's saying.


 MR. HENSON: I've got no problem with 
that. Something needs to be done. It's our 
building, Comanche Nation's building. We don't 



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 want it to go to pot. We already got one there.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, you'd have to 
accept his -- he'd probably second it if you'd 
accept his 20,700.


 MR. BURGESS: Just to let you guys 
know that while we might approve 20,700, they 
might be needing 22 or 23. That's why they round 
the figures while it's there. You never know what 
little extras will come in time wise.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: What's the 
motion, Mark?


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: The original one is 
still with Mr. Henson.


 MR. HENSON: Okay. I'll amend it to 
21,000.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I'll second it.


 MR. BURGESS: Motion's been amended 
to read to approve a $21,000 paint and capital 
improvement fund to assist the college with its 
cost of repairing the foundation of the school. 
Motion made by Mr. Henson, second by 
Mr. Wauahdooah. Further discussion? Call for the 
question. All those in favor signify by saying 
"aye". 


(Aye.) 



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 MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Nay.


 MR. REDELK: Nay.


 MR. BURGESS: Two nays, three ayes.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Mr. Chairman, can we 
go ahead and swear the elder advisory group in? 
It's getting close to 5:00 and some of them may 
not have ate since noon.


 MR. BURGESS: Okay. We'll do that 
now.


 (Comanche Nation Elders Center


 Nutrition Center board sworn in.)


 MR. BURGESS: Let the record show 
that we're swearing in the Comanche Elders Center 
Advisory Board, which is Ms. Beth Glazebrook, 
Member Emeritus; Ms. Aurilla Craig -- Aurilla, 
we're going to change the spelling here -- as a 
member; Mr. Earl Yeaqhuo. Did I say that right? 
And Ms. Mary Rutledge; and also Ms. Arlene Asenap 
and Ms. Carol Hall.


 James was here to let us know he's 
interested in selling 37 -- or how many acres you 
have?


 MR. KOWENA: Thirty-seven. 



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 MR. BURGESS: Thirty seven for sale. 
So we need to make a motion to pass a resolution. 
We can do the resolution Saturday.


 MR. NARCOMEY: I thought we already 
passed that resolution to negotiate.


 MR. BURGESS: On his? Did we?


 MR. NARCOMEY: I don't know. I know 
we talked about it. I make a motion, 
Mr. Chairman.


 MR. BURGESS: We have a motion to 
re-initiate resolution for the purchase of sale of 
James Kowena's land. Second?


 MR. REDELK: I'll second that.


 MR. BURGESS: So we have a second by 
Ron RedElk for this purchase. Discussion?


 MR. HENSON: Robert, to expedite this 
matter on the appraisal, can we inform him of that 
appraisal that we have done in the past where 
tribal members -- so that he doesn't fall into 
that appraisal from the BIA?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yes. I don't know 
if you understand this, but when they ask for the 
appraisal, the BIA doesn't do it. It's the Office 
of Special Trustees that has a backlog of 
appraisals. So the contract amount -- so they 



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 should be able to do it fast, but I can't speak 
for them. I know they've had some backlogs, so 
they've been a little slower.


 So what we've tried to do to help 
some sales is we ask OST for an approved 
appraiser, then we get that appraiser and we pay 
for it. But when we have the sale, like if we buy 
your land, we deduct that amount from your sale. 
Now, when the Office of Special Trustees does it, 
they don't charge you. So if we push it and 
expedite it, we'll charge you.


 MR. KOWENA: Well, let's go ahead and 
go that way.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: When we make the 
resolution, we'll have to incorporate that.


 MR. KOWENA: Yes. My mother needs a 
home, so let's go ahead and do it.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Robert, in general, 
what's the appraisal cost?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Appraisal varies, 
but I'd say it's gonna be 1,000 or so. It may be 
less. This is 37 acres.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Is that acceptable?


 MR. KOWENA: 1,000 to 1,200?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yeah, it's gonna be 



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 somewhere in there.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Is that acceptable?


 MR. NARCOMEY: Did they give your mom 
a time limit or a certain date to get out or she's 
out already?


 MR. KOWENA: She's out. She's living 
with me now. I only got a 30-foot trailer.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: They ordered her 
out, didn't they?


 MR. KOWENA: They told her to get out 
so she started packing her stuff up. I said, 
well, put them in with me. We went down and 
looked at a package down there at Lowe's. If 
y'all would approve it, we can build it. We got a 
contractor's license. We can go down there, if 
y'all purchase the materials, we can build it. Or 
have them to purchase that one little building and 
put it out there.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Where would you put 
it? On the land where my land is?


 MR. KOWENA: Where my land is.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Why would you put 
it there if you're selling it?


 MR. KOWENA: Not all of it. I've got 
the little one acre and a quarter, I've got it set 



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 aside.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Oh, on the upper 
end?


 MR. KOWENA: It's on the south end.


 MR. BURGESS: Okay. We have a motion 
on the floor and a second by Ron. All those in 
favor, signify by saying "aye". 


(Aye.)


 MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign. The ayes 
have it. We'll have that resolution on the agenda 
for Saturday.


 MR. KOWENA: Just two more things and 
then I'm done. The fire program, I don't know 
what's going on with it. That needs to be taken 
care of bad, because a lot of these boys, they 
need to go to work. They're not doing it. 
They're keeping the same two people on that pump 
truck. They need to rotate them and get these 
other boys on there so it will give them time to 
make a little spending money, too. Some of them's 
got families, some of them don't. It's hurting 
them.


 MR. BURGESS: One thing we have, 
guys, we only have a truck crew. We don't have a 



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 full wildfire fire fighting crew.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yeah, we just have 
an engine.


 MR. BURGESS: We need to get back 
into that, having a full wild lands fire fighting 
crew. Will and I were talking about it, and we've 
got to get back to the Bureau and see what we can 
do. A lot of it is going to be re-establishing 
with the Bureau that's what we're doing instead of 
just the truck crew, so that this 20-man crew can 
go out and assist with these fires, too. Just 
letting you know how we're going to do it. We 
don't always have to go to the Bureau. It can be 
a fire crew that was contracted through the U.S. 
Forestry.


 MR. KOWENA: The U.S. Forestry can 
contract these guys out. They got an automatic 
reimbursement. If the tribe pays them to go in a 
fire, the forestry will reimburse the tribe back 
on their money. We worked with the Mescalero Red 
Hats and that's what they did. They just 
reimbursed them. The boys get their pay right 
quick instead of waiting two or three months for 
it to come in.


 MR. BURGESS: That's what we want to 



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 do is explore that and then get back to having a 
wildlife fire fighting group. It's going to take 
some time. It won't happen tomorrow. But there's 
a lot of guys around here that can do that, a lot 
of our Comanche boys.


 MR. KOWENA: The other part is you 
said you like to get the guys to go to work. 
Whenever they got the school working, they already 
got the contract with the school working on it, 
how come the contractor can't hire Indians? 
Because it's on an Indian job. Instead of hiring 
his crew over here? Why can't they put it on a 
bulletin board up here and ask an Indian boy 
that's qualified to come up here and go to work so 
they can work instead of these guys getting all 
the jobs and the money?


 MR. BURGESS: We know that, James, 
and we want to re-institute to the TERO office and 
get on top of that so the Tribal Employment Rights 
Office is the one that will go out and all this 
construction will take place. They will be on top 
of that, telling these guys that they need to be 
hiring Indians and finding the Indian guys that 
know this kind of job to recommend that they be 
picked. We can't do it here, but -- and that 



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 whole office has been down for two years, so 
that's what we're trying to reinstitute. It'll 
take some time. We're looking out for that.


 In fact, we're getting our ordinance 
over to these guys to update and upgrade. That's 
what we did with the FEMA crew. Those guys went 
out and cleaned up the FEMA debris. Over 40 
Indians got hired. At the end of it all, 15 
stayed with it. That's good for us. A majority 
of Comanche people went to work.


 MR. KOWENA: It's like Hurricane 
Katrina when it hit, Hurricane Rita hit right 
behind it. We were down there. Some of these 
boys that was on the fire crew did not qualify to 
get their rig cards, so they send them down there, 
but they needed a saw crew. They sent a saw crew, 
but they were qualified to go. They all got paid 
the same amount of money. Even though they didn't 
have a rig card, they were still qualified to be 
one but didn't pass the test. Same way right 
now. We got some firefighters right here. They 
could go out and clear a fence line for the 
elderly, and they get paid through the forestry 
just like that would. Nobody wants to help them, 
nobody wants to get them started. 



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 MR. BURGESS: James, you heard us 
talk about this development and compliance 
office. We'll turn that over to that program. 
Whatever steps to re-develop that, re-institute 
the firefighters, that's what that office will 
do.


 MR. KOWENA: That's going to go under 
that, too?


 MR. BURGESS: They will be going 
under that whole process. So until we get a fulltime 
legislator that can help with that stuff, 
we've got to do something. That's why this 
development and compliance office needs to be 
instituted, so we can turn it over to them and 
tell them to get it done.


 MR. KOWENA: Okay. I'm done.


 MR. BURGESS: Okay. Would y'all like 
to discuss the gaming commission or the budget, 
fellas? Let's talk about a meeting to re-work 
this budget.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: A separate meeting?


 MR. BURGESS: We could. If y'all 
want to do that, it should be a whole afternoon 
with Finley & Cook. We need to set the time to 
work this out. I suggest we do that at the 



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 business center.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: That meeting has to 
be done quick. Because tentatively I'm going to 
be speaking -- we are -- to the directors about 
finishing this fiscal year. And right now, I 
think we'll make it, but we got a big reduction in 
September payment from gaming. It's way down. 
It's 700-some thousand less than last month's 
payment. So that's a big adjustment to the end of 
the year. So we're going to have to look -


 MR. NARCOMEY: Where is all that 
decrease coming from?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: They're not getting 
the net. It comes from net. They have to make 
profit, a net profit to give payment to us. We'll 
get into that. But when we really take the time 
on the budget, we're going to have to look at how 
we cover these. I mean we end the fiscal year -the 
way I look at it right now, I think with some 
of the savings that people have not expended all 
their budgets, when we meet with them Thursday, 
we're just going to tell them to watch your 
budget. If you've got savings, let's hold your 
savings.


 MR. BURGESS: Let me do an IM here. 



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 Let's go off the record. 


(Off the record.)


 MR. BURGESS: I passed out an item 
from the gaming commission. What that is, Bob, is 
an interpretation and definition of the area of 
appointments. Remember, we had the question on Ed 
Tahah and we had differences of what it meant? So 
that explained what they meant. And that when you 
discount the top three, Ed Tahah is eligible to be 
appointed. We withheld that appointment. And 
Mr. Jackson, being a vendor, is strictly 
prohibited in the gaming ordinance. He'd be a 
vendor representing our smoke shops and basically 
he couldn't sit on the gaming commission. No 
vendor can sit on the gaming commission.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Does that mean Jarrett 
is not our -


 MR. BURGESS: We didn't make any 
appointments. We didn't get any clarification.


 MR. NARCOMEY: So what does that 
mean?


 MR. BURGESS: That means Ed Tahah 
could be appointed, or anybody else, but we were 
wondering why is Ed -


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Who wrote this? 



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 MR. BURGESS: I went to the gaming 
commission to ask them to explain it.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: It doesn't 
explain it to me. I'm a little confused about it, 
because the way it states in the ordinance there, 
it spells out who. There's no mention of it here 
even addressing an exception for it.


 MR. BURGESS: Well, Jim, you worked 
on this ordinance? That's why I was asking. I 
didn't read it that he was not eligible. I read 
it because he's not supervising and then he's 
eligible. When you discount the top three, it's 
only those others. Now, below that he doesn't 
even meet the other restrictions that says he 
could be re-appointed.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Let me read it for 
everybody. If we could take a minute? We'll just 
do it from where they're not eligible. I'll just 
read that part.


 The following persons are not 
eligible. Of course, we know CBC members or board 
of directors; persons having a direct or indirect 
financial interest in a management contract, 
gaming contractors or management; persons directly 
related to or sharing a residence with any of the 



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 above. So that'd be those two parties above. 
Employees of the gaming operation while employed 
as such; and then persons ineligible to be 
licensed as key employees; and then tribal and 
non-tribal members previously convicted of a 
felony of embezzlement or theft. So when it talks 
employees, the gaming operations, while employed 
as such. So it says you can't be on the board if 
you're an employee.


 MR. NORMAN: If you are directly 
related to or sharing a residence with one of its 
employees, you're eligible.


 MR. NARCOMEY: In other words, we 
voted him in, right? But now what you're reading, 
it says that he's not in?


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: We're talking 
about two different people here.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Oh, you're talking 
about Tahah?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yes.


 MR. NARCOMEY: So he's ineligible or 
he's eligible?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: He's not a CBC 
member, he doesn't have a direct or indirect 
financial interest in the contract or anything. 



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 He doesn't have anybody that's directly related to 
him sharing a residence with him. That's 
interesting the way that one's written. Well, 
persons directly related to or sharing a residence 
with any of the above. That's these two above, 
CBC members or those doing financial business.


 MR. BURGESS: Persons eligible to be 
licensed. Let's look at it -- this above, any 
above. Yes, his daughter works there, but she's 
not employed, she's in management, I guess, but 
that's not the operational side. She's not in 
operations, she's a secretary over there to the 
CEO.


 MR. NORMAN: You can have somebody -you 
can have somebody eligible to serve on the 
gaming commission even if they have someone 
directly related to them or sharing a residence 
with them that is an employee of gaming. The 
prohibition is on somebody being both an employee 
of the operation and serving as a board member. 
And this was actually something that was 
specifically wrestled with and talked through and 
talked about and discussed between the board and 
the commission when they recommended the revisions 
to the gaming ordinance, and that's what brought 



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 this about. Otherwise, Ed would have been 
disqualified a long time ago.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: So we were 
looking at a previous version when we made -


 MR. NORMAN: I don't know. I wasn't 
at the meeting when the question came up.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Because this is 
worded totally different than what we were looking 
at -


 MR. BURGESS: This is a copy of it.


 MR. BURSON: You may have been 
looking at an earlier version. There was a 
version that was worded with the disqualifying 
related to, living with someone, which had the 
position of employee was above that phrase. So 
that phrase was kept stated above and it was below 
the employee. And that lasted about one month, 
and then that was revisited and it moved to the 
current version as employees below the line that 
says anybody above it. That's the current 
version.


 MR. BURGESS: I asked them to 
interpret this for us because he'd been sitting 
there all this time and there was no conflict.


 MR. NORMAN: There were multiple 



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 versions of the draft ordinance that ultimately 
was settled on to bring to you, because there was 
a lot of discussion about who had what role and 
responsibility between the board and the 
commission. So they went back and forth over a 
period of months to try to hash that out. This 
actually was one of the issues that they went back 
and forth on. And ultimately they that had on 
this language, so this is what actually was 
adopted.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: You have the new 
one?


 MR. NORMAN: I can get a copy.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: What I see in this, 
this is quoting Section 310 in the ordinance.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: That's the 
sections that we looked at when we -


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: No. The thing I 
see inconsistent with the constitution or 
inconsistent with other ordinances is that 
nepotism kind of thought. It's not here. It's 
all waived.


 MR. NORMAN: No.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Where is it? What 
it says is if the person applying for the job is 



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 an employee, you know, he can't be eligible for a


 commission position.


 MR. NORMAN: Right.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: So none of them 
say.


 MR. BURGESS: There are all sorts of 
rules and regulations and policies and procedures 
that dictate within the gaming commission itself 
and separately within the operations.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: That's what we've 
received.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Where's that?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Where is that?


 MR. NORMAN: They're within the 
policies and procedures of the board, and I guess 
the personnel policies of the commission that 
address that within each one of those entities.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: We weren't 
looking at this piece of paper here when we were 
making our determination on it. There was 
something else and it stated and we sat here and 
looked. And there's no way that that doesn't 
apply to this situation. I can't believe that 
they didn't catch it. So we had a wrong 
document. We're definitely not looking at the 



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 same thing.


 MR. BURSON: Must have been.


 MR. NORMAN: Neither the board nor 
the commission have construed that as a problem 
for either one of them.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, it shouldn't 
be a problem, but it shouldn't be smart.


 MR. BURGESS: To do what?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: To be supervised by 
family. I'll just remove the word. I'll just say 
should be employed there.


 MR. BURGESS: What happened at Star 
or Spur? Gaming went down. Our people couldn't 
go gamble at the casino.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: They changed that 
now.


 MR. BURGESS: If we say a relative of 
yours can't be working on the other side of the 
fence because you're related to them but you work 
over here -- and that's essentially what you're 
saying. You work over there in the junk yard and 
I'm sitting over here in the other car sales lot, 
but you can't work there because we're related.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I know. I mean it 
seems harsh, I agree. But the constitution puts 



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 it in our book.


 MR. BURGESS: But wait a minute now. 
If you're going to use the constitution, but 
you're saying gaming is separate from tribal 
government -- the constitution refers to us. If 
you're saying that we go back to the constitution, 
then all the gaming board belongs to us and we 
direct it. That's what you're saying when you say 
constitution.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I'm not saying 
that. I'm just saying we should be consistent in 
our documents.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I wonder what 
document we were looking at? It's different than 
that.


 MR. BURGESS: He's got his book. 
Mark has his book and it's the same thing.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: This says if a 
person applying is an employee, they can't apply 
if you're an employee.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I don't see Ed 
fitting into this. I mean, he's eligible. He's 
not in any of these. Okay.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I see he's eligible 
now. 



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 MR. TIPPECONNIE: He doesn't fit into 
any of these.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Is he underneath the 
tribal constitution, because that comes into play 
in the tribal constitution.


 MR. BURGESS: But see, that's what 
I'm bringing up. Okay -


 MR. BURSON: If you want to look at 
the -- the nepotism clause in the constitution 
talks about hiring and firing an employee. It 
doesn't talk about regulating. That's why the 
board and the commission and the previous CBC, 
when they considered that, the way that ordinance 
is written now, the employee cannot also be a 
regulator, but a regulator can be related to an 
employee. It was a policy call. You can have it 
the other way, but you eliminate a whole bunch of 
potential regulators when you make it related to 
an employee.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Then you eliminate 
employees.


 MR. BURSON: You've got 500 
employees. You've got 200, 300 tribal members 
employed in your casino. It has been the longheld 
policy of this CBC to try to appoint as many 



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 Comanches to the boards and commissions as 
possible. So if you had it the way you originally 
thought it was, you eliminate a lot of potential 
appointees because -- or those appointees' 
relatives got to quit working for the tribe.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: The point I make 
now, if we get back to this one individual, Ed, 
he's eligible because he doesn't fit any of these.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I agree.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Who were we 
looking at?


 MR. NARCOMEY: If he's eligible, 
let's have him run again.


 MR. BURGESS: He's in there. We 
haven't filled it.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: We haven't acted.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: He's going to be 
in whether he was in or not because he's already 
seated. He was just running for an additional 
position.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: He was, wasn't he?


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Yeah. He's 
already in. He would stay in even if we put 
another person in there. We already re-appointed 
him. 



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 MR. BURGESS: See, it's my 
understanding that as an alternate, they should 
automatically bump in when somebody moves. 
Because -


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: If we put him 
there, that would be an alternate position.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: So you need to want 
him as a full commissioner?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Jarrett is not 
eligible.


 MR. BURGESS: As a vendor.


 MR. NARCOMEY: So that's who we got 
to run again, his position?


 MR. REDELK: No, the alternate.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: If we select Tahah 
for this vacancy, then we have to select an 
alternate.


 MR. BURGESS: Go back to the 
applicants as an alternate.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yeah, we could go 
that route. -


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: But Jarrett's only 
not eligible because the CBC drug their feet. At 
this point, he doesn't even want to be a part of 
that. If we take recommendations, that's up to 



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 us. If we don't, whatever.


 MR. NARCOMEY: That's what he told us 
last Thursday. He said, "I heard y'all were 
trying to get rid of me." That's the first I 
heard about it.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: It gets to be a 
headache to appoint some people.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, one thing, we 
need to act on it.


 MR. BURGESS: Okay. On Tahah? 
MR. NARCOMEY: I thought he was 
already in? 
MR. BURGESS: No, I guess we have to

 appoint him from alternate to full member.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: Mr. Chairman, I make 
a motion that we make him a full member, moving 
him from alternate.


 MR. BURGESS: Motion's been made by 
Mr. Wauahdooah to promote Mr. Ed Tahah to full 
commissioner on the gaming commission. Second?


 MR. REDELK: I'll second that.


 MR. BURGESS: Second by Mr. RedElk. 
Okay. Discussion? Barring discussion, then we'll 
call for the vote. All those in favor signify by 
saying "aye". 



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 (Aye.)


 MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Nay.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I've got you down 
as that.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Good. I think he 
ought to run again. I think he ought to run 
against somebody else.


 MR. BURGESS: He applied for this. 
Now we go back and select an alternate. We place 
him on Saturday, and we can go back to those. 
There's about four of them in there.


 MR. NARCOMEY: So we'll select the 
alternate?


 MR. BURGESS: We'll let them be the 
alternate now. I don't see why the alternate just 
doesn't go in.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Ed did apply for 
this. He did apply to that. If you remember 
looking at all the applicants, he applied.


 MR. BURGESS: Why do you have an 
alternate if you can't just graduate them in? 
That's why they were there, continuity. Well, the 
ayes have it. Motion passes. 



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 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Did you say no or 
were you just kidding? Was yours a no?


 MR. NARCOMEY: I'll change it.


 MR. BURGESS: Economic Development? 
I guess they brought forward some 
recommendations. Did you bring yours with you, 
Bob?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I didn't.


 MR. REDELK: There's just three.


 MR. BURGESS: There's just three and 
they're pre-selected. I thought we had other 
applicants that came to us.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: We did. We 
decided at that point, because -


 (Off the record.)


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I'll make a motion 
to re-advertise.


 MR. BURSON: Five board members, one 
CBC non-voting member.


 MR. REDELK: Does the ex-officio get 
a stipend?


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: That's up to the 
board.


 MR. BURGESS: That's up to the board, 
too. 



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 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: And they always 
have.


 MR. NARCOMEY: Is the ex-officio 
vice-chairman?


 MR. BURSON: Currently, yes, your 
Vice-Chairman is the ex-officio.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: But I don't think 
he's getting a stipend.


 MR. BURSON: I have no idea.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I don't think he 
is.


 MR. REDELK: Well, your rationale for 
cutting the board member numbers down was to save 
money, right? Why would you pay your ex-officio?


 MR. BURGESS: Well, if it had been 
paid all along, you continue with that. I think 
they cut it down from 9 to 5, or 7 to 5.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: It's up to the 
boards within their budgets, I guess. We haven't 
said no to it, the CBC hasn't.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Well, why would 
we?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Well, I think 
that's why we don't.


 MR. NARCOMEY: It was up to the board 



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 to pay Delphine's fine, too. We should have got 
rid of them right then. I've been against them 
all for five years and I ain't got to step one 
yet.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: I have a motion to 
re-advertise. Is there a second?


 MR. BURGESS: Yes.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I'll second.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Okay. Call for the 
question.


 MR. BURGESS: Discussion? I think we 
just take a step at a time with these two members 
and move on. All right. Any more discussion? 
Okay. Call for the question on this. We have a 
motion made by Robert and Mark made the second. 
All those in favor signify by saying "aye". 


(Aye.)


 MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign. The ayes 
have it.


 So we will re-advertise for new 
members. Bob, are they coming to you on that 
advertisement?


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yes, we'll make 
them come here. 



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 MR. BURGESS: Make that motion read 
that, then.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Yes.


 MR. BURSON: I think Darrell made an 
observation that sometimes on these boards you 
need to try to recruit people that you think would 
be qualified and have the right qualities, skill, 
and sometimes they -- those folks will be 
responsive to being asked and recruited to sit on 
the board as opposed to just responding to an 
advertisement in the paper.


 MR. BURGESS: I don't have the 
updated information from Vern Griffin, so we'll 
just have to -- fellas, we have the choice of 
recessing until Saturday or adjourn.


 MR. TIPPECONNIE: Adjourn, because 
it's a new meeting Saturday.


 MR. WAUAHDOOAH: I make a motion we 
adjourn.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Second.


 MR. BURSON: Before you go.


 MR. BURGESS: Hang on. Do we need to 
go into executive session? Motion to adjourn, 
gentlemen.


 MR. WAHADOOAH: I make a motion to 



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 adjourn.


 MR. KOSECHEQUETAH: Second.


 MR. BURGESS: Motion made by Mark,


 seconded by Darrell. All those in favor signify 
by saying "aye". 
(Aye.) 
MR. BURGESS: All those opposed, same 
sign. All those abstain, same sign. 
(Meeting adjourned at 6:27 p.m.)


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 STATE OF OKLAHOMA ) 


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COUNTY OF OKLAHOMA )


 I, Kelly Stoabs, Certified Shorthand 
Reporter for the State of Oklahoma, certify that 
the above and foregoing meeting transcribed by me 
is a true and correct transcript of the meeting; 
that the meeting was held on August 31, 2010, in 
the State of Oklahoma; that I am not an attorney 
for nor a relative of any said parties, or 
otherwise interested in the event of said action.


 IN WITNESS WHEREOF, I have hereunto set 
hereunto set my hand and seal of office on this 
the 5th day of October, 2010.


 __________________________ 
Kelly Stoabs 
Certified Shorthand Reporter 
for the State of Oklahoma 



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 I, Robert Tippeconnie, SecretaryTreasurer 
of Comanche Nation Business Committee, 
certify that the above is a true and correct 
transcript of a meeting of CBC Members held at


 4:10 p.m. on August 31, 2010, and that the meeting 
was duly called and held in all respects in 
accordance with the charters and bylaws of the 
Comanche Nation and that a quorum was present. 
I further certify that the votes and 
resolutions of the CBC Members of Comanche Nation 
at the meeting are operative and in full force and 
effect and have not been annulled or modified by 
any vote or resolution passed or adopted by the 
CBC since that meeting.


 Signed:_________________________ Date:____________


 Robert Tippeconnie


 Secretary-Treasurer